*Text has been amended (June 2009) following input from a reader. The “Very Old Text (Rev. 13:18) in glass display” fragment is from the supplement to the Codex Vaticanus; I had originally doubted this.
When Joe Lieberman gives credibility to the upcoming Christians United for Israel with his attendance, he won’t just be lending his reputation to conspiracy-monger John Hagee. Also on the CUFI line-up is Walid Shoebat, the self-proclaimed former Palestinian Muslim terrorist-turned Christian evangelist. Various sources have challenged Shoebat’s account of his former terrorism, with the Jerusalem Post in particular raising questions about his story that so far have not been answered.
Shoebat also fancies himself as a bit of a Biblical scholar and palaeographer, and in a video clip that I have just been made aware of he expounds his theory that the “number of the Beast” mentioned in the Book of Revelation is in fact a reference to…Allah.
The argument is that the author of Revelation was shown the Mark of the Beast in “video” form from God – obviously following Hal Lindsey’s idea that the visions in Revelation, rather than being symbolic, in fact are John’s interpretations of images from the future he couldn’t understand (“locusts” being helicopters, and so on). With the Mark of the Beast, John saw some strange squiggles, which he incorporated into the text. For centuries, readers thought these squiggles were the Greek letters for either “666″ or “616″, but finally Shoebat has cracked the mystery: the squiggles are in fact Arabic, and they spell out “In the Name of Allah”!
Apparently Shoebat has been promoting this “theory” for a few years, and it appears in an obscure book by a certain Simon Altaf, entitled Islam: Peace? or Beast? (Altaf and Shoebat collaborated on an equally obscure book, entitled This is our Eden, This is our End.) Some details are here (and more at sites such as this one), including the supposed evidence, from the Codex Vaticanus:
One website adds the unpromising caption:
Very Old Text (Rev. 13:18) in glass display at Bob Jones University Library – Greenville, S.C.
One small problem however, is that the Codex Vaticanus does not include the Book of Revelation. The above is from a much later supplement, and the Greek is in a ”miniscule” script which came in only centuries later. Irenaeus in the Second Century discusses the text as consisting of the number “666″, and there are no fragments of Revelation which predate this source: therefore any ancient copies we have must have been written by scribes who certainly intended to write Greek characters.
Shoebat, meanwhile, prefers to give his credulous audiences his own version of what he says he saw in the Codex Vaticanus, which allows him to elaborate further:
It’s worth comparing that with the earliest fragment of the text we have, identified in 2005 from the Oxyrhynchus Papyri:
This follows the “616″ variant reading, and so does not include the Greek character which Shoebat finds the most suggestive.
[UPDATE: The Codex Sinaiticus, which Shoebat also assures his audience he has seen, spells out the number in letters:
That's "six hundred and sixty-six".]
One obvious question is how this strange twist on 666 fits with the wider context of the text, which speaks of a “number of a man” which will be known to he who “has understanding” (most scholars take it to be a reference to the Emperor Nero). Shoebat claims that it can’t be a numerological code, because that would be “Gematria”, which God has nothing to do with. I’ve always found it interesting that fundamentalist Christian Zionists, while appropriating all kinds of things from Judaism, have a horror of Jewish mysticism, which is seen as occultic.
UPDATE: More on Shoebat and Altaf here.
UPDATE 2: Joel Richardson digs the hole deeper.
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I went to the personal blog of the author of this article and saw that the image that he has posted of himself shows him sitting in a pub sipping a pint of beer. I fear that he may have been sipping a bit too much before writing this article.
The Codex Vaticanus does indeed contain the Book or Revelation, it is simply a later supplementation to the earlier manuscripts. A tiny bit of research could have produced this fact. The actual image of the portion of the Book of revelation that is part of the Codex Vaticanus is below. Scroll to the third column to the right and the top line, marked 18 (Revelation 13:18) contains the image that Walid used:
http://www.csntm.org/Manuscripts/GA%2003/GA03_150b.jpg
Images of the entire Codex may be viewed here:
http://www.csntm.org/Manuscripts/GA%2003/
Which could have been found if Mr. Bartholomew had gone here instead of sipping beer:
http://www.csntm.org/Manuscripts.aspx
Next time, you may wish to step outside of the usual Wikipedia sourcing for your articles Richard.
it is simply a later supplementation to the earlier manuscripts
…by about more than a 1000 years!
You and Shoebat appear to have confused the ancient manuscript with a C19 Italian facsimile of the Codex which has an (obviously) typeset copy of Revelation tacked on the end. I’ve now dicussed this here.
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First of all, believers are not required to delve into revelation, for the keys to the seals,are given only to the holders.
But, so that you learn a little..The beast that rises out of the sea, and out of the land..are one and the same- OIL: If you calculate the number:O = 15 ..I = 9..L = 12… The sum of these is 36 ..of which the 2 composites are 18 and 18 ,and herein, is hidden the 666..and 666 which let you know that the two references,are to one.
In this, you will also understand that OIL , is indeed ‘the weapon of mass destruction’ because you now see clearly the damage it causes across the nations,and leads nations to war…compared to what people tout as ‘nuclear’ the damage is much more widespread…this is not to say that nuclear power is not dangerous, or threatens the globe or that no other perceived weapons of mass destruction exist on the earth. The point to understand here is, do not confine yourself to physical, or very literal understandings.
In knowing this small detail, you will become more aware of what not being able to buy or sell without the mark is.
Well, perhaps I should explain that a bit more, seeing that many are so confined to literal.
‘The right hand’ ..is not physically the ‘right hand’..Listen carefully.
When you say..He’s my right hand man..it means ‘of importance’ So, to the traders ..the ‘right hand’ is actually the computer they work on. In everyday life today, in modern society, is not your every action guided by computer or mobile information?? So, that is your ‘right hand’ .
So….when it is said that all receive the mark, it really just means that NO TRADE DEAL is , or can be effected without KNOWING the OIL PRICE. Every trade commodity on this planet hinges on the daily price of oil. In knowing this , you now easily understand the mark on the forehead..this is very much simpler..Again, you have no need to hunt for a physical mark. The morons of the world, and satan’s dumbest pawns, tattoo themselves etc, and cut marks of 666 into their scalps etc..and the movies and media show you all kind of fantastic illusions ( again I say..remember who the prince of the power of the air and airwaves is) The truth however, is that this serves its purpose to really redirect people’s minds and take you on mindtrips of implants etc..Satan is really witty, and does have a laugh at how simple it is , to deceive even the faithful, and scare you off track. This is how every person on the planet is affected..whether believer or unbeliever..in the free world, or those under dictatorships (this is meant by ’slave’..and incidentally, the very ones that cry ’slavery’ are indeed slaves, but to their own minds and they will die and be erased from the earth in that belief.) To all those I shall say..Free yourself from the crutch of blaming others for the downfall of yourselves, and take responsibility and learn to make correct judgements..or perish. For the witty : ‘Slave’ applies to anyone with the chip. ”What chip ?” you’ll say. Any man can be free, and still be a slave.
All sin, and do not think that even the appointed of God do not fall in ways – what is important is corrective action, guided by the power of the Spirit. The dramatics begin, when those appointees defy correction and begin to propogate their wrongs, among the others of God, to lead them astray : Here, marks the beginning of judgement on those.
To have the mark on the forehead, is now very much simpler for you to understand. No trader really goes to bed, or rises really without wondering what the oil price will be, and that is the foremost thought on the mind of ANY international or local commodity trader. Even if you are not in direct trade, that singular factor really affects whether you post a parcel, or what price you will get if you planted carrots, or what price you will pay if you buy onions.
So , don’t go scaring yourself by thinking you’ll get injected, or secretly chipped etc..I have to admit, people can be really silly, and really lay themselves open to delusion quite easily. When you do that..then you are swept away quite easily, over the edge of a cliff, along with many. To have the mark, can easily apply to followers of the Lord too , because really in this world, you are guided by many things that are beyond your control. To have the mark of the Lamb on your forehead, means really acknowledging Yeshuah , Son of Yahweh foremost, in mind, heart and spirit. The physical mark of the Lord, emblazoned on the sons of lightning is ‘Y’ and with this comes the sign of the Holy Spirit which is really recognisable to many..Yet, even then, the world accepts others. This is the nature of man, and the reason why Jesus Christ was torn to pieces, by his own. Can you believe that?? The Lord in humility asked for their forgiveness…saying ‘they know not what they do’
What do you think the judgement of God is, for those that have been told, and live in an age of information, and really KNOW what they do ?? Your fate is sealed by ignorance in a time when there is no excuse. Do not think that many will be producing their gate pass at St Peter , or the will be a mass migration into heaven with what you have been told is a ‘rapture’..because you will be surprised to know that the church of God, will actually experience a RUPTURE, and this means that many will actually be shed from the kingdom, instead of having their lofty ideals of being spirited away selectively by the Lord. If I tell you the Sword is among you, believe that well. Who are the 7 Swords of the Lord ? You will not know, because six remain invisible to you all, and one is cut off for a time, and 7 times that…but when the 7 are together again, you know that the Hour of the Lord, is close.
The fullness is sealed up until the end..but under the authority of the Lord, some knowledge will be given to the people of the Lord, but to the true believer, no knowledge more than knowing the Lord, is necessary. Some witty dude said ‘ if they were knowers, then there would be no reason to call them believers’..something to that effect, but the essence of my meaning is this: that is the height of the wit of this world, and those that seek to pierce the Lord..all such wit will perish with you.
Beware of the many that will deceive you in ‘tongues’and rattling away in Hebrew terminology etc, rendering no explanation. If you cannot understand what is said to you in English, how will you understand what is said in another language? Those that have mastered the art of religious sounding gibber – to you I shall say this..Special punishments have been prepared for you from the moment you first thought to acquire the psychological skills to weaken many. Again, this is not to say that the Holy Spirit is inactive in the world..you who receive this warning will know exactly who you are.
Knowing more than that, is unimportant,and really not allowed to the general believer, whos command it is, to worship the Lord, in simplicity and humble spirit.
Woe to those that fiddled with the scriptural content in some backroom, on a computer, to declare war and the same to all that pervert religion, to spread terror – The Lord is watching. Further woes to those in positions of power that are advised by meddlers in the divine code – All they have done is unlock the fury of the Almighty, because even now, if the Lord were not there to intercede for fools , a portion of the earth would now already be dead, in fact a day has passed where the world leaders could have been swallowed up by the earth, never to be seen again if the Almighty were in a slightly more irate mood , because the foolishness of world leaders is now rising up to the heavens. There are cures for many things, but incessant stupidity has no cure, and is an irritation to the Father. All world leaders , that are charged with leading, but do otherwise seal their own fates, and many will escape here…but have no concept that they will be destroyed fully, because they refuse to stand in awe of the Lord,and do right!
In understanding this, you will also understand that the mark is not something tangible, or applied only to persons..so, do not try to involve yourselves in literal meanings to the high cryptics of Revelation, for it occurs on too many levels for man to understand.
People that think they can ‘crack ‘the bible codings, have already doomed themselves to fates they dictated by their own actions..so, be aware in your readings of Scriptures. It is given , so that you have a general synopsis of God’s Plan , but is not there for any to delve into, or to try to meddle with.
There is no command necessary, other than for you to believe in Jesus Christ, only begotten Son of the Almighty. Revelation unfolds in the lives of billions, without any really knowing..
Bible scholars,and theologians are lead, to give the best translation into languages understandable to mankind, but none should suppose to assign ‘meaning’ , for those things are given, only at their assigned times, by the Lord.
Even the seals,and holders of the keys, are only allowed access at their pre set designation in time, and not as man defines time, for man has no concept of time, as designated by the Almighty.
You have no need to worry about chips being inserted in your heads or all such physicalities. Those that propogate such explanations to things they do not know, also fall in danger of unnecessary judgements.
The command is simple..Live your life under the authority of the Lord,and obey the basic commands in simplicity, and you have the Mark of the Lamb not only on your forehead, but written in your heart. Keep yourself from senseless debates on the unknown, and prevent the loss of your tongues.
All that you see in the world, isn’t , and neither is all that you don’t see. Because you do not see the fiery anointing of the Lord across the earth, does not mean it is nonexistent.
As you see the morons,and even believers of the world deceived by ‘aliens’ and ‘ufo’s , remember who has the power to deceive,and is the master and prince of the air,and airwaves. Years and years of preparation, have allowed the minds of those that wish for delusion, to be deluded…and in fact, God will allow that as it is written, because a huge part of the earth will be deceived because of their need to see what seems ’supernatural’…to the believer, all you need do, is remain focused on the simple command given,and this will pass over you.
You , on this earth, are made in the image of the Creator of the Universe and there is no intellect given into any physical creation, more than given to mankind..but for those that wish to imagine their inferiority to other ‘beings’- then that is what they are. Yes, even the supposedly intelligent,and learned will fall prey to deception.
Have peace in your day, and remember the simple command you are given.
The iron laws of the Almighty, are not open to ‘modernistic interpretations’ to suit dysfunctional situations. The sword, goes out to all that shall meet, discuss, twist and adjust the commands of the Lord, to suit their own purposes on the earth. These have all bowed to the deceiver, and will follow in his footsteps,and share the judgements. Yes, the Sword of the Lord, is now at the church, and all that seek to redefine its purpose. The command, is given to all, that shall have questionable behaviour , as opposed to the law. The command, is not there to be questioned, or moulded to ‘modern living’. It is stated, and given by the ‘I AM’ for all. Defiance, is treated with warning first, as warning precedes judgement. So, as no correction has come from warning, the judgement of the Lord, falls upon the church and will be in full effect, soon. A Letter was sent to that Anglican Church of Australia, containing commands,and warnings and to be sent to all denominations of the globe. Perhaps they feel they are more subject to human authorities,and choose to delete the message – The judgement is nevertheless in effect against ALL , in the church that conspire to assign their contrived meanings, to the stated law, of the Almighty.
This letter was sent on 14/7/2008.
It would be safer for all those leaders,and bishops to extract themselves from their acquired status, and join the queues of the sinful, who have humility before the Lord,and ask for forgiveness, than to stand in the pulpits and purport to do the Will of God,and thereby evoke the fury of the Lord. In this time, a judgement has already been laid down for all these, which will be effected throughout all the world, for all to see in time.
Again, have peace in your day if you find correction..but worry, if you are told,and do not turn from your path.
Be careful, if you propose to render your own futile judgement against the Lord, and do not confuse what people do ‘In the Name of God’ with the Lord Himself. You presume to find yourself some kind of a ‘wit’, if the letters pertaining to doctorates and phd’s etc precede or follow your given name , but its wiser to think of yourself as stripped bare, in the eyes of God , because your titles,and honors mean nothing at that level.
Do not think that because you propose to judge God, by the actions of a few, that your supposedly ‘leftist’ideals absolve you from the laws of God.
If you have a problem with men, that pervert the laws of divinity, then its fine to attack those , but be careful when you begin to call the Lord, a ‘myth’ and some kind of nonexistence because of your own lack of spiritual integrity that you might find comfortable to expound as what you deem a ‘free thinker’ because like many,all that oppose the Lord, in thought and deed , will be routed , never to rise again from the dust that they all become.
You may be wiser to make decisions in things that are tangible to you,and things that you can see, rather than expounding your opinion, on things that you cannot see, or have zero inclination to understand.
Perhaps the most mystical thing, is that atheists and free thinkers that oppose the existence of the Almighty, expound on opinions from the height of social standing,and general comforts, but even these, in situations of life threatening self adversities, find themselves looking for the same God they defy.
All your human wit,and perceived intelligence, is piddly in the eyes of the Almighty God, that knows the content of every molecule known,and unknown to mankind,and even the dust that rises up to acknowledge God, is in higher esteem than all that seek to defy the existence of the supreme Almighty.
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I rarely do not comment on blogs but yours I had to stop and say Great article!!
What would Jones think if he knew his name was being used to spam blogs?
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Hello Richard,
I wrote earlier concerning the 1831 reference to the 3 hand written symbols which you have amended.
I am still curious as to why you still do not accept the 3 symbols as something other than Greek.
Please view this site of Greek Numerology (up to the 3rd Century) and see if the symbols are applicable to 666.
If following your viewing of this site you still maintain that 666 applies then please explain to me as to how John would have guessed and got right 3 future Greek Symbols but not Abrabic symbols.
http://www.sizes.com/numbers/greek_numeration.htm
Eh? We don’t have anything that was written in the author’s own hand. The earliest Greek fragment gives Greek symbols – although they don’t look like Shoebat’s nonsensical presentation – while others (such as the Codex Sinaiticus) spell it out as a word. And the section added to the Codex Vaticanus more than a thousand years after it was created is neither here nor there. There is no need for John to “guess” future Greek symbols, as the context shows that he was obviously talking about a number, and that was how early Christians understood it.
It’s bizarre that conservative Evangelicals, who generally insist that Scripture should not be deconstructed in any way, are prepared to re-write part of the Bible just to fit anti-Muslim sentiments.
Hello again Richard…
Supplemental —– The ‘Ionic Script’ that the symbols are being applied to did not come into use until the 3rd or 4th century. Therefore the numbers must be applied to Johns time ( 1st Century )at which time they were using the ‘Herodianic’ Greek numerals.
Same point applies.
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Dear Brothers and Sisters,
This guy is a genius, an innovator but he seems to have forgotten the basics, even though he is an ARAB or at least claims to be one.
I wish I could ask him few questions and see what response he would give
1. What did the Jews and Chrsitians used to call God before Muhammad ??
God was called Allah in the Arabic Version of bible before Muhammad. In addition to this Abdallah (Slave/Servant of God was a very common name amongst Jews and Christians alike).
2. Name of a famous Jewish Rabbi was Abdallah Ibn Salam. Did it mean he worshipped antichrist?
3. Pick up an Arabic Bible/Torah today and read what it says. It says Allah instead of God. It also says Bismillah (In the name of God). Does this mean that God did not know that his Jew and Chrisitan followers will call him Allah, and wanted to confuse/deceive everyone by puttiing Allah in the Old testament as a sign of Antichrist?
4. What did the Meccans used to call God before Muhammad ?
They called God Allah. Mohammaed’s Grandfather’s name was Abdallah.
In addition to this people who used to worship moon used to call their God Allah (Moon God and the conspiracy theory that someone suggested that Islam evolved from it).
The bottom line is that Allah is an arabic word for God and was used before Muhammad and is being used even today by non-muslims for their God.
5. What is the Word for God in Hebrew? it is Elohim (For respect). If you use a singular it will be Eloh (pronounced very Similar to Allah). Infact a lot similar than the word God.
6. His Claims that the two swords signify Islam and is on flag of Saudi Arabia is not true. Please see the flag of Saudi Arabia at decide for yourself. It does not even say Bismillah on the flag. Even the bands on heads of Freedom fighters in Palestine do not say Bismillah (find for yourself)
7. If God wanted to point to Islam, why was Muhammad or Quran not mentioned or some symbol indicating Muhammad and Quran as the antichrist. Why did God use a name that his followers call him with.
8. The two sword symbol looks like a cross to me. Since this symbol was predicted in the old testament during time of Moses, could it allude to cross used for Crucifying Christ? It can mean anything
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